First Assignment

Directions: For today's assignment please read the four quotes below that have all been pulled from articles in the Points of View database on the library's website. Once you read all four quotes, pick the two that you find most interesting, convincing, or crazy (the two you are drawn to for some reason) and write a personal response to each of these two quotes on our blog. There is a question following each quote which will help to get you thinking about the issue at hand. You do not have to answer this question as it appears, it is simply there to help you if you don't know what to say. These response posts to the quotes should be two separate entries in which you discuss what you agree with or what you find wrong with the quote that you chose. Please include the number of the quote (1-4) in your blog entry to make discussion easier on your classmates. Once you have posted your two responses, the next step is to read the ideas of your classmates and post two responses to their ideas. Your original two posts must be completed by Friday 12/14, and two responses to your peers entries must be completed one week from today.

 

Quotes to choose from:

 

#1 "Throughout U.S. history, the courts have attempted to define the concept of "obscenity." The most recent definition, proposed in 1971, defines obscenity as work that lacks artistic, scientific, political, or literary value and depicts something that might be considered patently offensive. As this legal definition clearly demonstrates, any attempt to define a subjective concept necessarily relies on other subjective concepts like "artistic value." The idea of obscenity is not a concept that should be defined in legal terms, but rather is something that should be defined personally by every adult consumer."

Question: Is the concept of "artistic value," as it is included in the legal definition of "obscenity," a subjective or objective concept?

Source: http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=pwh&AN=26608605&site=pov-live

 

#2 "The USA Patriot Act of 2001 grants additional powers to government agencies, like the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency, to conduct domestic surveillance. In 2005, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) reported that the FBI has investigated the library and Internet usage records of over 30,000 citizens. The Patriot Act grants government agencies the right to decide what media can be considered "dangerous," and therefore to justify surveillance of private consumption. Granting the government the power to determine the value of published media erodes the freedoms granted under the Bill of Rights by denying free choice to consumers. In 2006, the U.S. Senate voted to officially designate the Al-Manar satellite television network, the Al-Nour radio station, and their parent company the Lebanese Media Group as "terrorist entities," for their association with the Lebanese paramilitary organization Hezbollah. Specifically, the media outlets were accused of having acted as a source of recruitment and funding for terrorist groups."

Question: Do you agree with the author's argument that the USA Patriot Act poses a danger to the freedoms outlined in the Bill of Rights? Why or Why not?

Source: http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=pwh&AN=26608605&site=pov-live

 

#3 "Some critics have noted a change in young adult (YA) and children's literature in the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries. Sexuality, sexual violence, gang violence, homosexuality, profanity, and violent crimes against children are increasingly and graphically represented in many of these books. However, in some cases, concerned parents and community members react without taking the time to closely investigate the books they want banned. A book depicting rape, for example, may be offensive to some, but it may also be a useful starting point to engage students in conversations about rape. It might help young people better understand the world they live in, the human condition, and issues they face in their culture. The finer points of criticism involve judging whether a book has depicted something objectionable tastefully and appropriately. Librarians and parents should learn as much as they can about the book in question, and try to determine if it in fact may have redeeming educational value, rather than just gratuitous sex or violence. Some parents may seek a less-offensive alternative that does equally well in dealing with the same topic. Censorship is not, therefore, about repressing information that children and teenagers should have; instead, it insists that parents have the right to educate their children on controversial topics in ways they deem appropriate, and to monitor the materials their children are exposed to in school or at the library."

Question: Do you believe parents reserve the right to teach their children about controversial issues like drug use? Why or why not?

Source: http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=pwh&AN=26608607&site=pov-live

#4 "The key is that parents become active and engaged in what their children are reading. Just as parents monitor the music, video games and movies to which their children are exposed, parents should be aware of what books their children are reading. Censorship of books should not be about silencing voices on important topics, but about steering young people toward the best possible literature on the topics they are interested in. This, after all, is what education and public tax dollars should be doing in the first place. The conversations around this issue will raise important questions: what is "good literature," exactly? Does reading literature really affect people that profoundly? Should one person or group dictate the moral standards of the entire community? Is compromise the best solution? These are difficult questions that should be part of ongoing discussions in communities where censorship has become an issue.

Question: Do you agree with the author's assertion that parents should examine the books they intend to bar their children from reading? What if the parent is extremely opposed to the subject in question?"

Source: http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=pwh&AN=26608607&site=pov-live

 

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Please consider your responses carefully before posting them, as your teachers and classmates will be reading and responding to them.

on  December 11, 2007  at  3:22 PM

quote1: i agree with this quote. people who are artistic have the right to be nude because to them a humans body is art, but if you were to just say hey nice body vulgerly or someone was to go streaking would be innopropiate.
quote3: i dont exactly agree with this because some parents havent done drugs or dealt with them first hand so therefore how are they giving us the correct information or able to give us advice on what is unknown to them.
on  December 12, 2007  at  9:11 AM

quote 1:"artistic Value" is defined different to many people. Weither they see it as a Beautiful thing or an obscenity thats the peoples chioce why hold somthing against them, and make it look wrong to others if my point of view that is just making poeple look at it in bad terms if they see it as something bad like obscenity , becuase that is what there seen to do.
Quote 3:I do believe that parents reserve the right to teach the children about the "bad" things in life, But these things are already known in the world why try to hide it or tell them something slightly differnt they are going to find out no matter what , let them figure out for themselves what they want to no about a certain topic. This way if in there lifetime come across these everyday things they will no how to hnadle the situation
on  December 12, 2007  at  10:50 AM

#3
I think parents do reserve the right to teach there kids about issues such as drug use. If parents taught there children at an early age the dangers of drugs, they would know not to do them when they are older. Books that are include sexuality, profanity, etc. are also exceptional because they teach kids at an early age what to expect when they are older.
on  December 12, 2007  at  10:52 AM

#4
It is true that parents should monitor what thier children see,hear and watch; but only too a certain degree. It is a terrible conviction to send a child into the world without knowledge of the pitfalls and troubles that await them. There is the danger of overexposure which could trouble a young child. The key would be to teach one's child patiently and slowly about controversial issues and let them determine thier own stand on the matter.
on  December 12, 2007  at  10:54 AM

#4
I think parents should moniter what books the children are reading so they can see if it's appropriate or not for them. If a parent is extremely opposed then thats fine because its their decision if their child reads the book or not.
on  December 12, 2007  at  11:10 PM
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#4 I think if the parents try to moniter what books a child reads then the child is more likely to rebel and read it anyway. If the parent is extremely opposed to the book, video game, or music then they should be able to say no to the child.
#3
I think parents should be aloud to teach there kids anything they would like to teach them because they are their children not someone else's. If parents dont teach their kids about this because if they don't then they could learn it the wrong way.
on  December 13, 2007  at  9:06 AM
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#3Yes parents have the right to educate their children on drug use. Parnets should tell their children how their actions affect everyone.I believe in reab programs and counseling can fix alot of problems. If the children arent show the right thing to do
they might do the roung thing
on  December 13, 2007  at  9:11 AM

#1. I believe that there should be obscenitys becouse they happen in real life. i meen the FCC can't cencer real life and some people like a realistic book.
on  December 13, 2007  at  9:18 AM

[#4] Personally, parents shouldent be able to ban books from kids. Its kind of hard to ban a book from someone. If a book i ban, it gives the kids more curiosity to know what the book is about.
on  December 13, 2007  at  9:21 AM

#4 It is true that parents should monitor what thier children do but onlt too a certain part of time . It is a terrible sending a kid to this earth and not peperning them for what is to come to them . The key would be to teach one's child patiently and slowly about controversial issues and let them determine thier own stand on the matter.let the kids learn parents can help them but just dont control there life just show them what is going to help them in the futer
on  December 13, 2007  at  9:23 AM

#4. I believe that people should not bar books because some parents find it inappropriate because it goes against their religion. Just because some families don't want there kids to read some books it stops other kids that can from reading it so I thank that they should never bar books it can fall on the parent to stop there kids from reading those books.
on  December 13, 2007  at  8:02 PM

#1
truthfully, i beleive it is subjective because they are making ideas without seeking input on both sides.
for instance if there was a courtcase and the judge made his jurisdicton before he heard both sides that would be unjust and wrong.
on  December 13, 2007  at  8:09 PM

#3
i think that critics should not place censors on books because in my mind if you ban something from kids it tends to make them want to go towards reading it. also most of the thinks in the new days going into books are facts in real life and if they dont lern about it now they will eventually and then go back and feel as if they led a boring sheltered life.
on  December 14, 2007  at  10:35 AM

#3 honestly, my opinion on this article is that people go threw situations everyday, its life. they shouldnt let things bother them that many other people deal with on a daily basis. They should be educated even on topics that bother them, if they do because everyone needs to know whats going on in the world. you should be smart and aware of it instead of afraid.
#4 I agree that your parents should worry about what your doing, reading, and involved in. They love you and are just worried about you and your education. We should let them help us, because they can teach us things that we can use in the future.
on  December 18, 2007  at  10:49 AM

there should be obscenities because real life has obscenities so people should just deal with it because its something people see in real life all the time.
on  December 18, 2007  at  10:51 AM

i believe it does pose a danger because its dangering the private lives of people and the government shouldnt be able to do those things to danger citizens.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:09 AM

I don't think parents should teach thier children about drugs. Some children like to rebel against their parents. So since parents would try to tell their children not to take drugs, children might just because their parents said not to.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:09 AM

quote 3: I don't think parents should teach thier children about drugs. Some children like to rebel against their parents. So since parents would try to tell their children not to take drugs, children might just because their parents said not to.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:09 AM

#1 the idea of obscenity should be defined not by a court but by the parents of a child who would be in contact with the item or thing in question. Artistic value can be found in many things no matter what they are it depends on an individual's way of thinking.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:10 AM

quote 3: I don't think parents should teach thier children about drugs. Some children like to rebel against their parents. So since parents would try to tell their children not to take drugs, children might just because their parents said not to.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:22 AM

#2 the government should be able to monitor certain people. The government has to able to protect the common man. To do that some people have to lose their rights. Besides, the people under surveillance are monitored for a reason because they are a problem to society.
on  December 20, 2007  at  9:27 AM

#3 books should not be banned no matter their content. information should not be censored at all. sure many things are inappropriate for children, but it is up to their parents to determine what is right or wrong for them to read
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